Del papá a la mamá del nieto 138 en la ESMA: "A vos no te va a pasar nada porque estás embarazada"

Carlos Loza, an ESMA survivor, heard this conversation while he was held captive, hooded, inside the ESMA Clandestine Detention, Torture, and Extermination Center. When he recounted it at trial, he didn't know who they were. At the end of the trial, during the sentencing, it was revealed that, given the dates, they could only be Marta Enriqueta Pourtalé and Juan Carlos Villamayor. His shock upon hearing the news.