Nkwazi Unfiltered Episode #21 with Dr Gabriel Pollen

Kamiza Chikula sits down with Dr Gabriel Pollen, the Permanent Secretary in Zambia’s Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development, a proud member of the 5 a.m. club, a passionate motorcyclist, and a relentless pursuer of self-improvement. The two spoke about Pollen’s work ethic, the challenges that redirected his path, and why he believes personal discipline is the foundation for serving others. #podcast #interview #academia #publicservice