How She Turned an 84-Step Zapier Flow into a Viral AI Product w Jordan Gill

If you've ever stared at your business IP and thought "there has to be a way to turn this into a product that doesn't require me" — this episode is your permission slip. I'm sitting down with Jordan Gill, founder of Systems Saved Me, who went from teaching VIP days to building custom software tools — without being a developer. We're talking micro tools, vibe coding with Lovable, and how Jordan turned a voice-note-to-content idea into a product that 700+ people have purchased. We get into: What a "micro tool" actually is (spoiler: Jordan made the term up and it stuck) Her journey from hiring developers on Upwork to building her own tools with Lovable How her viral product Carpool Content turns voice notes into polished content for 9 platforms The smart way she keeps backend costs low (hint: users connect their own storage) How to decide if your idea should be a course, a service, or a micro tool Why custom GPTs might be on the way out — and what to build instead One of the wildest micro tools a student built (a book club organiser that pulls bestseller lists via API and lets members vote on the next read — I mean, come on) Plus the AI Confession Booth gets… dermatological 👀 Whether you're sitting on frameworks, processes, or just a really good Zapier workflow that deserves better — this one's for you. ⏱️ Timestamps (adjust to final edit) 0:00 — Meet Jordan Gill + why she's on the show 2:30 — Jordan's 30-second story: VIP days → 500 clients → cold turkey pivot 5:00 — Getting into puzzles (and the hierarchy of puzzler types) 7:00 — From Upwork developers to vibe coding with Lovable 10:00 — What is a micro tool? (and why the name stuck) 13:00 — Carpool Content: from 84-step Zap to a product with 700 buyers 16:30 — How Jordan keeps backend costs almost zero 19:00 — Course vs. service vs. micro tool: how to decide 21:00 — The wildest micro tools her students have built 24:00 — Why Lovable is Jordan's ride-or-die platform 27:00 — What to do if you're ditching custom GPTs (and how Claude fits in) 29:00 — Rapid fire: worst system she's ever seen (21 layers of desktop files 😳) 31:00 — AI Confession Booth: armpit rashes and health anxiety 33:00 — Where to find Jordan + final thoughts 🎯 WORK WITH ME → AI Dream Team (intensive AI training): wrightmode.com/aidreamteam → 1:1 AI Consulting: wrightmode.com/consulting → Wright Mode Membership: wrightmode.com/membership 📌 RESOURCES + LINKS MENTIONED Jordan's stuff: Micro Tool Mastery (Jordan's group intensive): Join Micro Tool Mastery Carpool Content (voice notes → content for 9 platforms): Try Carpool Content Systems Saved Me website: systemssavedme.com Systems Saved Me podcast: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Connect with Jordan: Instagram: @systemssavedme (30K+ followers — her content is elite, go follow) LinkedIn: Jordan Gill Newsletter: systemssavedme.kit.com Tools mentioned: Lovable — the vibe coding platform Jordan builds in Upwork — where Jordan found developers before vibe coding existed Claude by Anthropic — the AI model powering the backend of tools like Carpool Content 👋 CONNECT WITH BROOKE Instagram: @wright_mode Website: wrightmode.com 🧪 Not Another To-Do Your one small experiment before the next episode: Think about one process in your business that you repeat all the time. Could be onboarding, content creation, client intake — whatever. Now ask yourself: could someone else get value from this process if it was packaged as a simple tool? You don't need to build anything yet. Just notice the IP you're already sitting on.