Is Geopolitics Becoming More Chaotic?

If the rules-based order has been ruptured, what comes after? “Global un-order,” says Mark Leonard in his new book, ‘Surviving Chaos: Geopolitics When the Rules Fail.’ Are states responding quickly enough to this new world? Leonard distinguishes between “architects” such as the United States and Europe, which try to reimpose their established blueprints, and “artisans” such as China, which adapt, improvise, and repurpose what already exists. Leonard, who is the director of the European Council on Foreign Relations, joined FP Live’s Ravi Agrawal to explore how Western policymakers should adjust to the new un-order. Watch the interview at ForeignPolicy.com: https://foreignpolicy.com/live/mark-l... 0:00 Intro 2:00 A Chinese world order? 7:08 Global “un-order” 18:18 Why now? 23:45 How to survive the chaos 32:28 The Global South 32:40 China’s ambitions 39:00 Do values still matter? On the go? Listen to FP Live as a podcast at https://link.chtbl.com/foreignpolicyl... or wherever you get your podcasts. FP Live is Foreign Policy's forum for live journalism that brings leading foreign-policy experts and thinkers together to analyze the world's biggest events. Visit http://foreignpolicy.com/live for the full conversation and more live journalism from Foreign Policy. Subscribe to Foreign Policy's Youtube Channel:    / @foreign-policy   Visit http://foreignpolicy.com/ to read the latest global news and analysis from FP. Follow Foreign Policy: X -   / foreignpolicy   Instagram -   / foreignpolicymag   Facebook -   / foreign.policy.magazine   LinkedIn -   / foreign-policy-magazine   TikTok -   / foreignpolicymagazine