Beyond Gender: Transition is a Part of Life (ft. Torrey Peters)

With her debut novel Detransition, Baby Torrey Peters made history as the first openly trans writer to be published by a major publishing house. Now, she's back with a new book that makes the case that we're all living the trans experience. It's called Stag Dance (https://penguinrandomhouse.com/books/..., and it challenges how we think about gender and explores transness not as an identity, but an invitation. Torrey and Sam dive into trans representation, the power of writing things that make people uncomfortable and how trans art can flourish, even in today's political climate. ___________ SUBSCRIBE & HIT that notification bell 🛎 for new episodes: https://bit.ly/41gUf7t SIGN UP for Sam's Newsletter to get behind the scenes stuff from every interview each week. https://kcrw.co/3OJEXjW ________________ 0:00 - 2:08 Introduction 2:09 - 12:40 Writing Through Discomfort, the "Weird" and Current Events 12:41 - 20:00 The Trans Experience as a Series of Questions 20:01 - 27:35 On Torrey Peters' Stag Dance 27:36 - 34:10 Language for Trans and Queerness 34:11 - 38:00 Lessons of Friendship within the Queer Community 38:01 - 47:10 "Stag Dance" as an Invitation for Everyone 47:11 - 51:15 Are America's Politics "Hella Trans?" 51:16 - 53:20 Outro ________________ The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions. Executive Producers: Sam Sanders and Arnie Seipel Showrunner: Tyler Greene Senior Producer: Bennett Purser Video Lead: Beau Delmore Switcher & Video Editor: Luis Pena Technical Director: Phil Richards Podcasting Fellow: Myriam-Fernanda Alcala Delgado Podcast Producer: Andrea Bautista Digital Editor: Andrea Domanick Theme Music: Elisheba Ittoop Art Director: Evan Solano ________________ http://www.kcrw.com Music | Culture | News | NPR #kcrw #samsandersshow #torreypeters #author