A Conversation with Dan Reiland

Episode 29 features Dan Reiland—one of the most seasoned executive pastors and leadership coaches in the church world. Dan served alongside John Maxwell for years at Skyline Church and spent 24 years as the Executive Pastor at 12Stone Church with Kevin Myers. He now coaches senior pastors and executive teams full time, and his wisdom in this conversation is the kind you don't find in a book. In this episode, David Ashcraft and Dan talk through: • When the right time is to hire an executive pastor (and what size church makes it financially feasible) • The two types of executive pastors—and why most people naturally gravitate toward one side • How to build an executive team structure that works for your church's personality • What it means to be a bottleneck—and how to know when your structure needs to change • The critical difference between equipping and developing leaders (and why legacy churches know how to do both) • A 10-minute conversation John Maxwell had with Dan in 1982 that changed the course of his ministry Whether you have an executive pastor, are thinking about hiring one, or are trying to build a healthier culture on your team—this conversation will give you language, perspective, and practical handles to take home.