Artist Talk Джона Балдессари и Ильи Кабакова

John Baldessari and Ilya Kabakov are equally considered the "godfathers" of conceptual art, and both have earned the public's love for their wit and irony, unconstrained by the confines of their native language. The artists share an impressive "tenure" (each has been in the art world for nearly half a century) and a secret love of painting and art history. They both play with images and texts, and also turn to popular culture for inspiration. Remarkably, they have only exhibited together once and have never previously discussed their work publicly. On the occasion of John Baldessari's first exhibition in Moscow ("1+1=1," Garage Center for Contemporary Culture), curators Kate Fowle and Hans-Ulrich Obrist spoke with the two artists about their art, their sources of inspiration, and what conceptualism means to each of them.