What Can Actually Change People's Mind - and it's not facts!

There's a word for the quiet grief you feel once you can't unsee how animals are treated, and most people carrying it have never even heard it. Clare Mann calls it vystopia. Clare is a psychologist and existential psychotherapist. She's spent decades on the thing most of us are worst at, which is talking about what matters most without making everyone shut down. We get into what vystopia actually is, why so many vegans get told they're "just depressed" when they might be reacting completely sanely to what they've seen, and why telling people the hard truth usually backfires. She also explains what works better. If you've ever felt like you're seeing something the people around you can't, watch this one. And if you haven't, it might explain someone in your life who does. Clare wrote Vystopia: The Anguish of Being Vegan in a Non-Vegan World and Myths of Choice: Why People Won't Change and What You Can Do About It.