Design Engineering at Laravel: Jason Beggs on Building Laravel Cloud

Matt Stauffer talks with Jason Beggs, staff software engineer at Laravel and the design engineer behind the Laravel Cloud front end. Jason shares how he unexpectedly became “the Tailwind guy”—and how that path led him to helping build one of the most talked-about products in the PHP world. They get into what design engineering actually looks like at Laravel: working closely with designers, building in React (even when it’s not your favorite), using AI to handle big refactors, and what it’s like to create a product you’re also the perfect user for. Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer Jason Beggs on X - http://x.com/jasonlbeggs Jason Beggs’s Website - http://jasonlbeggs.com/ You Might Not Need an Effect - https://react.dev/learn/you-might-not... Epic React - https://www.epicreact.dev/ Expose - https://expose.dev/ Laravel Twitter -   / laravelphp   Laravel Website - https://laravel.com/ Tighten Website - https://tighten.com/ Suggestion Box - https://suggest.gg/laravelpodcast ----- Editing and transcription sponsored by Tighten - https://tighten.com/ Big thanks to the companies that support the show: Honeybadger - https://www.honeybadger.io/for/laravel/ Mailtrap - https://l.rw.rw/laravel_pod_2 Thunk - https://tidyup.agency/ Laravel - Laracon US: https://laracon.us/ and Laravel Cloud: https://cloud.laravel.com/ Chapters: 0:00 Introduction to Laravel Podcast and Guest 0:11 Meet Jason Beggs 1:42 Two cold messages that launched a career 5:33 Joining the Laravel team full-time 7:21 What makes someone stand out 9:56 Life at Laravel Cloud 11:49 Design engineering day-to-day 13:50 UX without formal training 17:09 React, Livewire, and picking a stack 18:55 Embrace the tools you use 20:31 AI in Jason's workflow 22:59 Using AI for large refactors 25:14 Cross-browser & mobile QA 28:33 Woodworking, cows, and building a house 32:00 What's next for Laravel Cloud 33:00 Wrap-up