Ep 80 - John Moreland on staying hands on, timelines, and flip phones.

John Moreland is a celebrated singer songwriter who has steadily released 10+ records, mostly independently (through Thirty Tigers) and one with 4AD, receiving accolades from the New York Times, Fresh Air, and Pitchfork, and has tour with the likes of Dawes, Patty Griffin, and Jason Isbell. We talk with John about cutting back on his 'team' so he could return to being more hands-on, how having lots of middle men involved separated him from both his audience and his creativity, going back to a flip phone, jealousy as positive motivation, following your own timeline, and a whole lot more. GET MORE access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon:   / theother22hourspodcast   THE OTHER 22 HOURS is hosted by singer-songwriter Michaela Anne and producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss. It features conversations with musicians and creatives, focusing on the time musicians spend OFF-stage, and some of the tools and practices guests have found to be most helpful in building and navigating a career based in creativity. These conversations focus on the times outside of the public eye and ask the question, what do you do to create sustainability so you can sustain creativity? SHOW NOTES - http://www.theother22hours.com/episod... Available as audio-only on all podcast platforms. SOCIAL MEDIA -   / theother22hours     / michaelaanne     / shaferhaiss   MORE INFO - http://www.theother22hours.com http://www.michaelaanne.com http://www.shaferhaiss.com All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss 00:00 Intro 02:45 About John Moreland 04:58 The Struggles and Joys of Taking Control 07:30 Reclaiming the Love for Touring and Music 10:07 Navigating Middlemen and Self-Management 13:57 The Importance of Personal Fit in Professional Relationships 19:35 Taking a Break: Gaining Perspective and Overcoming Anxiety 22:42 Jealousy and Motivation in the Music Industry 25:42 The Impact of Social Media on Artistry 33:08 Personal Growth and 12-Step Programs 43:44 Challenges of Releasing Music 46:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts